{"id":1536,"date":"2024-07-13T12:21:18","date_gmt":"2024-07-13T12:21:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/13\/what-bidens-downturn-in-the-polls-means\/"},"modified":"2024-07-13T12:21:18","modified_gmt":"2024-07-13T12:21:18","slug":"what-bidens-downturn-in-the-polls-means","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/13\/what-bidens-downturn-in-the-polls-means\/","title":{"rendered":"What Biden\u2019s downturn in the polls means"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Welcome to The Campaign Moment, your guide to the biggest developments in the \u2026 still kind of close, but perhaps deceptively so? \u2026 2024 election.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">(Did a friend forward this to you, or are you reading this online? If so, sign up for the newsletter here. You can also hear my analysis on the Campaign Moment podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts. We\u2019ve got a new episode today!)<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">The big moment<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">It\u2019s getting closer to fish-or-cut-bait time for President Biden and the Democrats, and the events of the past two days have only compounded their dilemma. Call it \u201cpurgatory\u201d or call it \u201climbo\u201d; Democrats are in it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">On the one hand, a significant and still-growing number of Democrats (22) had called for Biden to drop out as of Friday afternoon, citing concerns about his ability to campaign and even do his job, and many others have rather suggestively questioned whether he can win.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">On the other, Biden gave a mostly capable, hour-long news conference (some high-profile gaffes aside) Thursday night that could soothe some jittery Democrats. The lack of the predicted cascade of defections on Capitol Hill nearly 24 hours after the news conference is interesting, though much of that drama is playing out behind closed doors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And now, new polling, including a Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos survey suggests both that the race might have shifted less than we previously thought and remains a competitive one, especially nationally. Biden\u2019s head-to-head performance compared with Donald Trump even ticked up slightly in Friday\u2019s NPR-PBS-Marist College poll, which he led by a statistically insignificant two points.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Given all of this, I think it\u2019s good time to take a look at The Post\u2019s great new polling average tool (bookmark it, share it, debate it) and what the fuller data really says about where we stand.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The top-line finding is that, across 10 quality surveys conducted both before and after the debate two weeks ago, Biden\u2019s deficit has grown by an average of 1.9 points. He was trailing by less than a point before; he now trails by 2.6 points in those surveys.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">All of these shifts are within the margin of error, but the large number of polls we have make it pretty evident that Biden lost at least some ground since his debate performance two weeks ago shook the political world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In addition, the president lost ground in eight of the 10 polls. The Marist poll is the only one he\u2019s gained in. A CNN poll showed an unchanged race, but that\u2019s after it already had him trailing by six points, a pretty large margin at the time. (That might suggest CNN\u2019s pre-debate poll was a bit of an outlier.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But Biden is doing slightly better in The Post\u2019s overall polling average \u2014 which pulls in all qualifying polls, not just the ones conducted before and after the debate. He trails there by one point.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The polls also show that, even if the margin hasn\u2019t shifted much, reservations about Biden have. For instance, The Post-ABC-Ipsos poll is a relatively good one for Biden, showing a tie. But it also showed more than 8 in 10 voters saying he\u2019s too old \u2014 higher than most previous polls \u2014 and 56 percent of Democrats said he should step aside. The percentage of voters who said Biden was mentally sharper than Trump dropped significantly, to just 14 percent. Half of independents said the debate made them view Biden less favorably; very few became more favorable toward him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And of course, even if the race is that close nationally, it\u2019s a bit of a mirage. That\u2019s because Democrats probably need to win the popular vote by a few points to win the presidency.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Remember that Democrats won the popular vote by two points in 2016, but still lost the electoral college. And back in 2020 Biden won nationally by 4.5 points, but he won the three decisive states \u2014 Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin \u2014 by 0.6 points or less. Shift the entire electorate just a point to the right in 2020 and Trump wins.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">(Indeed, the actual closeness of that race has passed many people by. My favorite stat: If you shift just 43,000 votes in those three states, Trump wins. If you shift just 90,000 votes overall, Republicans win not only the presidency, but also both the House and the Senate.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Those two results suggest Democrats probably need to lead by around three or four points nationally to actually be \u201cwinning,\u201d practically speaking. Regrettably, we have very little high-quality, post-debate data in the swing states, most of which Biden has trailed in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And that\u2019s why even a slight-but-real shift against Biden is so troublesome for Democrats. He was already behind, after all, and now he appears to be behind more. The polls suggest the margin has shifted against Biden by more than five points from a pretty tightly decided 2020 election.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Which brings us to the big caveats.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Maybe the polls are generally off by a few points \u2014 as they have been before \u2014 and Biden\u2019s actually doing better. It\u2019s harder and harder to poll these days. (Of course, Biden could also be doing worse; Trump over-performed the polls in both 2016 and 2020.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And maybe the fact that Biden\u2019s two best recent high-quality polls \u2014 the Post-ABC-Ipsos and Marist polls \u2014 are the leading edge of the race reverting to the mean. These are the two most recent polls, so maybe the debate temporarily chilled Biden\u2019s support, but it\u2019s now thawing a bit and the race is getting back to \u201cnormal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Whatever the case, the right call for Biden and Democrats is hardly as clear as it might have seemed even just a few days ago. And Biden has some things he can credibly point to to at least buy some time. The ideal outcomes for twitchy Democrats would have been either no impact (in which case Biden stays) or a big shift (in which case it\u2019s clear he goes). They\u2019re basically smack-dab in the middle of those two outcomes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The wait continues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">(In the meantime, keep a close eye on our polling averages, which will be updated with all the important data.)<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">A momentous quote<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cLike most people I represent in Southwest Washington, I doubt the president\u2019s judgment about his health, his fitness to do the job, and whether he is the one making important decisions about our country, rather than unelected advisers. \u2026 The crisis of confidence in the president\u2019s leadership needs to come to an end. The president should do what he knows is right for the country and put the national interest first.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">-Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-Wash.) in a statement Thursday \u2014 before Biden\u2019s news conference \u2014 suggesting not just that Biden should drop out, but should resign. It\u2019s one of the strongest statements from a Democrat to date.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">Take a moment to read:<\/h3>\n<p><span>\u201cInside the glitzy fundraiser where Biden lost George Clooney\u201d (Washington Post)<\/span><br \/>\n<span>\u201cProject 2025\u2019 gets traction \u2014 thanks in part to Trump\u201d (Washington Post)<\/span><br \/>\n<span>\u201c\u2018Unfit\u2019 to serve, \u2018con artist\u2019: How Trump\u2019s VP finalists once bashed him\u201d (Washington Post)<\/span><br \/>\n<span>\u201c\u2018It\u2019s Like Being Liberated\u2019: Republicans Bask in the Glow of a Democratic Meltdown\u201d (Politico)<\/span><br \/>\n<span>\u201cThe Trump National Convention\u201d (Atlantic)<\/span><\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on The Washington Post<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to The Campaign Moment, your guide to the biggest developments in the \u2026 still&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":1537,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1536","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1536","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1536"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1536\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1537"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1536"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1536"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tradetrovex.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1536"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}